A scam, but how? Part II

Friday, October 22nd, 2010 Scams and Spam 35 Comments

Following on from this post A scam, but how? and all the comments that followed it, I engaged the next scammer to see how it all works. My scammer must have got suspicious or got cold feet and stopped contacting me.

I think the scam works by the scammer paying you the full amount for the order + shipping with a stolen credit card (even though they say at the beginning they will pick the order up), you then forward on payment to the bogus shipping company and that money is gone. You transferred it. The bank does a charge back on the stolen credit cards funds and now you’re out of pocket for the shipping cost that you voluntarily paid.

Here’s a copy and paste of my emails with the scammer…. The first email.

This is an enquiry e-mail via http://keemin.com.au from:
Mr. Bryan Moore

Hello Owner/Sales manager,

My name is Mr. Bryan Moore, and i am inquiring about safety switches. I want to know if you do have switches in stock at the moment? or if you can special order them for me? .Please if you can special order them for me, i will be very glad for you to email me back the prices for each of the switches listed below and i will let you know the quantity needed on each.

63A 2 Pole Hager earth leakage circuit breakers

RCD Neutral Link 5 Pole

12 POLE SWITCHBOARD FOR RCD CIRCUIT BREAKER ENCLOSURE

RCD / MCB Safety Switch 2 Pole 10A 16A 20A Switchboard

24 POLE DISTRIBUTION BOARD SWITCHBOARD CIRCUIT BREAKER

Please email me back the prices including GST only and excluding freight because i will be picking them up from your shop. Please also let me know the type of credit cards you do accept as payment and the % surcharge on them.

Thank you and i look forward to your reply shortly.

Kind regards,
Mr. Bryan Moore.

So I replied with some made up prices. (Please don’t try and buy these products from me for the same price, I can’t do it haha).

Hello Bryan,

We carry Hager earth leakage / RCD / safety switches in stock. They are on the shelf and available for immediate pickup. We accept all major credit cards including Visa, MasterCard, AMEX. We don’t charge a surcharge on credit card payments. We have an EFTPOS machine here and can process the payment when you come to pick the order up.

We will need 1 days notice if there is a large quantity of items required so we have time to pick them off the shelf and package the order up. Smaller quantities we can deal with as you walk in the door.

The actual pricing depends on the quantity required. I can list prices for 1 to 10 units. All ex GST (GST is 10% so please add 10% to the prices quoted) and they are ex freight.

Hagar 63A 2 pole earth leakage only circuit breakers pricing $24.50 ea
Neutral link 5 hole @ $2.50 ea
12 pole switchboard @ $11.00 ea
24 pole switchboard 2 $16.75 ea
RCD/MCB combination circuit breakers / safety switches 10A / 16A / 20A / 25A / 32A / 40Amp all $11.00

Regards,

Steve.

Now we have quantities to work with.

Hello Steve,
Thank you for the email. I will like you to get back to me with the total price for the quantity of the switches below.

63A 2pole Hager ELCB………….QTY :10

5pole Neutral Link …………..QTY :10

12pole Switchboard…………..QTY :10

MCB/RCD’s…………..QTY :10

24pole Switchboard…………..QTY :10

Please let me know the total cost for them and also let me know how soon you can get them ready for me if i make the full payment for you to place this order in.

Kind regards.
Mr Bryan Moore.

It must have been too hard for him to do the math so, I totalled the cost up for him using the made up prices already quoted (I nearly made a deliberate mistake to over quote and see if it was picked up, but decided against it).

Hi Bryan,

Hagar 63A 2 pole earth leakage only circuit breakers pricing $24.50 ea X 10 = $245.00

Neutral link 5 hole @ $2.50 ea X 10 = $25.00

12 pole switchboard @ $11.00 ea X 10 = $110.00

24 pole switchboard 2 $16.75 ea X 10 = $167.50

RCD/MCB combination circuit breakers / safety switches 10A / 16A / 20A / 25A / 32A / 40Amp all $11.00 X 10 = $110.00

Subtotal is $657.50 ex GST

GST is $65.75

——————–

Total is $723.25

——————–

If you send me an address I can mail a tax invoice out to you immediately.

These items are on the shelf and I can have them ready within the hour. If you wish to purchase them let me know when you’ll be in to pick them up and I’ll have them ready for you.

Regards,

Steve

Oh no, it’s being shipped overseas. A shipping company will quote on shipping to Africa, and pick the order up. I Googled the email addresses supplied and got a few hits with some anti scamming sites. Here we go. Notice his name mysteriously changed from Mr Bryan Moore to Mr Roland Woods.

Hi Steve ,

Thank you very much for the quote i will like to proceed with the order. At the moment, I will be shipping this order to a friend in Togo, The address is as below and i will like to use Long Way Shippers Ltd for this pick up. Their email address to contact them on my behalf is (longwayshippers@gmail.com OR longwayshippers@cooltoad.com) I want you to send them an email with the weight of this order, shipping and pick up address so they will provide you with a quote. As soon as you get the quote kindly let me know by emailing me with the cost so i will do the total payment for this order. So please send them an email now and obtain a quote from them for me.

Please i want you to send an email to the shippers with the details below.

1. Your company location address.
2. My friends delivery address.
3. The Weight of the item.

SHIPPING DESTINATION
2985 Avenue de la Chance,
face rond-point GTA, BP 14327
Country Togo-City Lomé

I will be looking forward to your reply.

Best Regards…..
Mr Roland Woods.

So I sent an email to his shipping company.

Hello,

I am contacting you on behalf of Mr Bryan Moore.

The order packaged weight is 68kg

Pickup address is:

167 Made Up Street

Another Suburb, Victoria

Postcode Australia.

Delivery address is attached below.

From: Bryan Moore [mailto:mrbryan200@gmail.com]

Sent: Friday, 15 October 2010 11:59 AM
To: sales
Subject: Re: Keemin website: Switches order.

Hi Steve ,

Thank you very much for the quote i will like to proceed with the order. At the moment, I will be shipping this order to a friend in Togo, The address is as below and i will like to use Long Way Shippers Ltd for this pick up.Their email address to contact them on my behalf is (longwayshippers@gmail.com OR longwayshippers@cooltoad.com) I want you to send them an email with the weight of this order,shipping and pick up address so they will provide you with a quote.As soon as you get the quote kindly let me know by emailing me with the cost so i will do the total payment for this order. So please send them an email now and obtain a quote from them for me.

Please i want you to send an email to the shippers with the details below.

1. Your company location address.
2. My friends delivery address.
3. The Weight of the item.

SHIPPING DESTINATION
2985 Avenue de la Chance,
face rond-point GTA, BP 14327
Country Togo-City Lomé

I will be looking forward to your reply.

Best Regards…..
Mr Roland Woods.

I got a prompt reply from the Shipping Company. The shipping address has changed, actually the destination country has changed if I read it right but I ignored this like I ignored the name change.

Dear Valued Customer,

Thanks a lot for contacting Long Way Shipping Company for all your shipping needs.We wish to inform you that our company is capable of coming to your location to pick up the merchandise up and ship it to the destination.Please below will be the break down for the freight cost which include custom duties at the receiver port,These means the receiver won’t pay for receiving the merchandise.

Shipping cost: $2100.26
Tax: $250.15
Administration: $310.89
Customer Duties: $590.00
Grand total: $3251.3 AUD.

Payment Option: Please our company accept payment via bank transfer only and payment has to be made to our main head office in Ghana where all invoice are made,And payment has to be sent to the accountant department to the accountant bank details below.

Bank Details for the wire transfer.

Bank Name: Ecobank Ghana Ltd.
Beneficiary Name: Nicholas Kwabena
Beneficiary Bank: Ring Road Central
Bank Address : 2121 Ring Road Street.
Beneficiary Account: 2122284301019
Beneficiary Swift #: Ecocghac
Beneficiary City : Accra
Beneficiary Country : Ghana
Beneficiary Zip-Code: 00233
Telephone number: +233245611005

Beneficiary Address:

Beneficiary Name: Nicholas Kwabena
Beneficiary Address: 204 Farm lane Ave.
Beneficiary Zip-Code: 00233
Beneficiary Country : Ghana
Beneficiary City : Accra
Telephone number: 233242302925

Please as soon as the wire transfer is completed kindly scan and email us back a copy of the wire transfer receipt which will serve as a way of retrieving or clearing funds. Our shipping cost are valid for only 10 days and after 10 days it is expected to be a rise to the shipping cost, So please kindly make the payment to us as your earliest convenient to avoid any increase in the shipping cost. Thanks again for choosing us and please don’t hesitate to get back us if you have any pick up or shipment.

Faithful Yours,
Nicholas Kwabena
Accountant department.

So I tell Mr Roland Woods (< I used the new name instead of Mr Bryan Moore) what the quoted amount is. I offer to get a 2nd price as I know our shipping company can do better 🙂 I also tell him to let me know when “he” has paid the shipping company.

Hi Roland,

I contacted the shipping company as per your request: I’ve copied and pasted their email here:

(Do you want me to get a quote from our shipping company? I think we could do better than $3152.30AUD)

Let me know when you have paid them and when pickup will be so I have the order ready to go.

Thanks,

Steve.

Oh no, his Father is sick, there will be no personal paying as he’s not only out of town, he’s out of the country. Of course he’s happy with the shipping quote. We’re back to being Bryan Moore.

Hello Steve,
Thank you for the email. I will like you to know that at the moment am not in town my father is very sick in Canada so i have with him for 5 days now so at the moment am in Canada. So what i want you to do is that i will like you to add the shipping cost to the cost of the switches and email me back with the grand total cost including gst and credit cards % charge and i will provide my credit card details fro you to charge the full amount before you to go ahead to place the order and also pay the shipping company on my behalf.So
Email me back with the grand total cost so we can proceed as soon as possible and also am OK with the shipping cost.

Mr Bryan Moore.

Again I have to do the math. So I add the two prices together.

Hello Bryan,

The cost of the circuit breakers and switchboards was $723.25

The cost of shipping is $3251.30

We don’t charge a credit card surcharge.

For a grand total of $3974.55

Regards,

Steve.

That was the last email.

My boss said I had a call and I was surprised when I answered and heard a deep dark voice saying “Hello Steve, this is Bryan Moore”. He asked me to go to our EFTPOS machine to punch in some credit card numbers. I wasn’t quick enough, I should have pretended to enter them and said the machine said card declined. What I did say was that the machine was in our other office (the truth) and I’ll be going up there within two hours so can enter them in then. So he gave me the numbers, the name off the card (Not his name), expiry date and the 3 digit code off the back. He said he would call me back in a couple of hours to check that I’d done it and that the transaction went through OK. When he made that call our caller ID showed the number and it was a Sydney area code. He would have got our number off the company website. The website ‘contact us’ form was used to initially contact us.

A little while later the phone rang again, this time from a blocked number, it was Mr Bryan Moore asking me not to process those credit card numbers but to wait for him to call me with another card. I guess the one he initially gave me was reported stolen / missing or had been frozen and he found out after giving me the numbers.

He hasn’t called back or emailed me since.

I rang the police and gave them a brief of what had gone down and the credit card details and left it with them. They asked me to forward on any more card details he might give me.

Tags: Bryan, Long, Longway, longwayshippers@cooltoad.com, longwayshippers@gmail.com, Moore, mrbryan200@gmail.com, Roland, Scam, Shippers, Way, Woods

35 Comments to A scam, but how? Part II

Thanks for this report. Ive had the same thing happen to me and I was immediately suspicious with the email. So great job. Reading of your experience immediately confirmed my doubts.

Cheers
Mars Mirelli

Mario Mirelli on November 3rd, 2010

Hi Steve, We got the same email and my suspicious wife figured it was a con. I googled the address and got your blog. Thanks for all the hard work.
Bill

Bill Edmonds on November 3rd, 2010

You are a Legend!
Good on you for scamming the scammer 🙂

San on November 4th, 2010

I got the same email. I wanted to know what the scam was so I played along with him also. The scam is that the shipping company wants you to wire transfer the money or western union the money. The credit card is a fraud so you send the shipping company money to ship the order after that the credit card will be bounced back for fraudulent charges. I called the local police and FBI and they didn’t seem interested. Its really sad that people are getting scammed. Small business’s and the people with there credit cards stolen.
Is there anything we can do to stop these people.
I’m sure people really fall for this scam.

Jessica on January 1st, 2011

Just the same email today under the name ‘John Lee’ thanks for the the warning and for spreading the word about this guy. you really saved our business a lot of time and money.

Sally on January 7th, 2011

Hi Steve, Got the same email sent to us via one of our customers in NZ. Bryan said he was in Queensland freight company used was Drop Shipping Company. I was very suspicious about the freight company and did a search and cam up with email scammer.

Lyndsay on January 13th, 2011

I just got one his e-mails and thought I do a google search and found your blog.I kinda new it was a scam by just reading his mail.I am sure he is going to try to hit all the other direst sellers so I am going to post your blog and let evr one know to watch out for this one.
Thanks for posting.

Sharon on February 17th, 2011

Hi Steve, thanks for the information. I did receive this email and I did reply to him, and then searched his name, and came up to your site. Should I contact the police if he contacts me??
keep up the good work…shame on people who can not earn an honest living.

Shadi on February 23rd, 2011

Thanks to Steve and everyone’s contribution to help to identify this scammer. I received this email today, Mr. Roland Woods like to proceed an order with me and has requested the following action before he makes payments. This commerical behaviour is so strange, so I googled his name and this has taken me to Steve’s message. Thanks so much for this help.

From: Mr Roland Woods [mailto:mrroland105@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 February 2011 12:18
Subject: Re: DDP price -£13.62/roll (500 pcs on roll) – Labels Order ( Perminant-Adhesive)

Thank you very much for the quote i will like to proceed with the order. At the moment,I will be shipping this order to a friend in Togo, The address is as below and i will like to use Globe shipping company for these pick up.Their email address to contact them on my behalf is (globershipperonline@cooltoad.com OR globershipperonline@myway.com) I want you to send them an email with the quantities of the labels.,shipping and pick up address so they will provide you with a quote.As soon as you get the quote kindly let me know by emailing me with the cost so i will make the total payment for this order.
Please i want you to send an email to the shippers with the details below.
1. Your company location address.
2. My friends delivery address.
3. The quantities of the labels.
SHIPPING DESTINATION
2985 Avenue de la Chance,
face rond-point GTA, BP 14327
Country Togo-City Lomé
I will be looking forward to your reply.
Best Regards
Mr. Roland Woods

Alan on February 24th, 2011

Hi Steve. Thank you so much for all the information you have given. I was very doubtful of the order which is about GBP2,300+. It seems so very easy for someone to order that amount, so I became worried. I googled his email address mrbryan200 and got your blog.

Below is a copy of his email with all his different aliases. What he does is go to our website and do the website enquiry so that his email does not go into SPAM.

Well done Steve.

Tue 08/03/2011 16:22
Hello Zen,
Thank you very much for the quote on the items,i appreciate it a lot. I will like to go ahead with the order so i will prefer to make the full payment to you with my master card so that you can go ahead and place the order for me. But before that , I want you to know that i am sending this items to a friend in Ghana so you must be wondering how that could be done, that is simple. There is a shipping company that will come to your location to pick up this items as soon as they are ready for pick up OK so i want you to get in touch with this freight company and ask them how much it will cost for them to be at your location to pick up the items when it is ready OK so that i can make the full payment. I want you to send them an email with your location address and then the Quantities of the items along with the delivery address below.

Phillip Banson.
562 Ring Road Est
Accra-Ghana 00221 Tema

Please in order to get the correct freight estimate from the shipping company you need to send them the following information’s by email.

. Your Location address.

. The delivery address.

. Quantities of the items .

So send the freight company all those details by email so that they can get back to you with the freight cost ok. Below is the contact details for the shippers you need to find the cost from.

…………………………………………………..
Company name: Drop Shipping Company Ltd.
Company e-mail: dropshippers001@gmail.com / dropshippers@cooltoad.com
Contact Person: Nicholas Kusi.

…………………………………………………………

Please I want you to contact Nicholas Kusi with all the details and then ask him for the freight cost ok and as soon as you get the shipping cost add it to the cost of the items and e-mail me back the total cost so that i can send you my Master Card to charge the full payment on it and start on the order ok. So please get in touch with the freight company and get me the cost , so that i can make the full payment to you ok. Thank you and i will wait to read from you with the total cost.

Kind regards…..
Mr. Bryan Moore.

Zen on March 15th, 2011

We have recently been in contact with a man from a company called globeshipper we would like to talk to you about your experiences. Please contact my boss Dorothy at 360-736-7232

Thank you

Scott

Scott Griggs on March 15th, 2011

Thanks Steve, I did the same as the people above and read your blog! Hope you don’t hear from them again.
Cheers, Jo

Jo on March 21st, 2011

Thanks so much for sharing these blogs, I work in a crystal shop in Sydney and got a fishy email enquiring about oils, that was formatted almost identically to your terry smith email but from Mr. Roland Woods…

I just thought it was fishy he kept referring to himself as “Mr Roland Woods” it also started with “Hello owner”

Stephanie on March 22nd, 2011

Almost got caught today. Guy contacted us through our website. Said he was buying items to send to victims in Japan due to the earthquake. He seemed genuine until I got the email with the freight forwarder contact. globershippeonline@cooltoad.com. Such a dodgy email address that I had to google it. Found your blog. The scammers email was the same format as the others but they’ve added the part about the victims in Japan and gave me an odd address in Japan. Just pricks to use a tragedy like that!!!

Oh and he’s changed his name to Deron. Also he never just hit reply and left an email chain like normal. He started a new e-mail each time.

Spottyb on March 22nd, 2011

I received an email from Mr. Roland Woods in March 2011 as an inquiry about my fragrances.
The last email I received basically was the same as the one for the switches– 10 of everything I have available.
When I ran the shipping company email thru google I landed here. I didn’t bother to do anything else other than to send Mr. Woods a copy for his records of the total cost of the order with the shipping thru his shipper (which is totally fake!)
Instead of having the link shown I made sure that the visual words were about his copy for the complete cost of the order (which he was going to use a mastercard.)
I am pretty sure he will not be too happy about the bait n switch on the information but he won’t contact me again for anything!

I still have his information which I am going to give to the police so that they can do something about this.

This is the 2nd or 3rd time I have landed here while reasearching to make sure of legitimate dealings (better safe than sorry!)
Keep up the good work,
Sincerely,
Jenifer Hale
CEO
Custom Gifts By J. C. Hale
On another note- if you or anyone reading this need bath & body products that are natural (no chemicals straight botanical- meaning plant derived- come to me- you can show my web url for all- I have nothing to hide like some of the scammers that just love unwary people.

Custom Gifts By J. C. Hale on April 21st, 2011

Email from Roland Woods requesting sprinkler parts, good product knowledge, shipping address same as above to Togo, thanks to your warnings will not to dealing with him

Nigel on May 9th, 2011

Just wanted to reiterate everyone else’s comments; thanks for posting this as we received a very similar email but tailored to a label printing job from the same email address today. The layout alone screamed scam, along with the “Hello Owner” opening but I couldn’t figure out what the scam was – until I found this page. So thanks for sharing.

I think we were contacted by this person before but at the time we weren’t accepting card payments and when we told them that we heard nothing more from them. It all makes sense now.

Louise on May 11th, 2011

I have a small locksmith business and was taken in at first by the huge padlock order this man was going to make. His first email he sounded local like he would come in the store to pick up the locks. Then later the same as yours. Instead of contacting the shipping company I googled it and got your blog. I’d like to think that I wouldn’t have fallen for his scam but times are tuff. Thank you for saving me from a costly mistake.

Dianna on May 13th, 2011

We Received the email for the padlocks too. sent the quote and his reply sounded too fishy for me. searched on line and came here. Thank you!!!! BTW his reply was worded exactly the same from Roland Woods

Trish on May 19th, 2011

I got one of these emails a few days ago. I replied and asked where they needed the items shipped to, and then it began. Mr Bryan Moore said he was located in Queensland, but was sending the items to his friend in Kenya and for me to contact the shipping company and arrange a quote etc.
It sounded dodgy, and thanks to your blog I have confirmed that.
Keep fighting the good fight!

Meaghan on July 15th, 2011

We have received the same kind of email. We are a custom surfboard manufacturing Co in Santa Cruz, CA, the guy who contacted us name is now Chris Young, he wanted 10 surfboards shipped to his friend in the republic of Togo; the body of his email is almost exact to the one they sent to you Steve, funny thing is next door in the same building is another surf board builder and he got the exact email from this Chris Young guy for 10 boards shipped to the same friend. Both of us thought hmmm, I looked up the shipping Co, now called Inter Selective Shippers Ltd. but nothing other than Nigeria scam came up. It wasn’t until I did a search for COOLTOAD.COM in the shippers email address that I came upon your blog to confirm the Scam. Thanks everyone, we are a small business, we try to survive and do business with honesty and integrity to bad we have to push through the piles of scam artists that we get faced with…….. Good luck to all!

Stephanie on July 29th, 2011

I have run across the same scam, in the email address there is cooltoad.com. It is a bogus company, Kenya-Nairobi with a New York zip code. The bogus trucking firm is int.selective.shippers01@gmail.com out of New York–hmmm. Also the same, Your company location address, My friends delivery address and the quantities on the items/order and of course they will pre-pay with a credit card. The email is from a Mr.Gordon Sparks and shipping to Mr. Dick Taylor. Good luck to anyone that gets this bogus email

Marlena on September 8th, 2011

Thanks you, it looked to good to be true to me.
ask a frind what he through he said looked ok to him.
That when I went on line and found you site.
From: Roland Woods (mrroland103@gmail.com)
shipper-dropshipper001@gmail.com or dropshippers@cooltoad.com
I could not see where the scam was.
Thank you for showing me.

Charlotte on September 19th, 2011

Today is the 15th August 2012 and I can confirm that Roland Woods et al has now changed his name once again to Charley Greg and these are his new details: Company Name: Charley Store, 49, Gr. Xenopoulou street. Limassol, 3106 Cyprus
Phone : +357 25560357 and his email address is charleycustserv0@gmail.com He loves his gmail accounts doesn’t he! So watch out everyone, he is obviously desperate!

James Wilson on August 16th, 2012

Thanks for the input above. As per the last post, we were contacted by “Charley Greg” today. Copy of the mail:

—–Original Message—–
From: Charley Greg [mailto:Charleycustserv0@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 October 2012 14:09
Subject: cyprus order enquiry

Hi Sales,

I’m Charley Greg, I am interested in purchasing some of your
products, I will like to know if you can ship to Cyprus,I also want
you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card.
Visa/MC/Amex and Discover

Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated above.

Kindly return this email with your Website or your current price list.

I await your quick response.
Kind Regards.
Charley Greg

J on October 25th, 2012

I guess the scam works because they are still doing it years later. Thanks to your post + other comments I stopped it dead in my case ( just ignored him ). Here is the email I received:

Hello Sales,

I’m Walter Richard am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if you can ship to Cyprus,I also want you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Visa/MC/Amex

Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated above.

Kindly return this email with your Website Or Attached the wholesale price sheets. I await your quick response.

Kind Regards.

Walter Richard.

peter on February 16th, 2013

It looks like they’re getting lazy now Peter.

Not even bothering to see what you have to offer, but asking you to tell them what you will get ripped off for.

Perhaps you could offer Walter some cheap Viagra or something? 😉

Steve on February 16th, 2013

Charley Adam, now! I’m glad I found this post!

“Hello Sales,

I’m Charley Adam. am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if you can ship to Cyprus,I also want you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Visa/MC/Amex

Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated above.

Kindly return this email with your Website Or Attached the wholesale price sheets. I await your quick response.

Here is my Shipping Address below
Company Name: Charleystore Inc
City House, 6 Karaiskakis Street,
CY-3032 Limassol, Cyprus.
Phone Number: +357 20295544
web: under construction

Kind Regards.
Charley Adam.”

roneill on May 24th, 2013

Yes, on 22nd May 2013, same experience as the poster above … asking about purchase and freight of goods Tasmania to Cyprus 🙁 Good job Steve.

Ralph

Ralph Wessman on May 29th, 2013

Thanks, this saved the company I work for from the scam too! Our email was the exact same wording. So glad I googled! Mr. Charley Adam BUSTED!

Vanessa Dion on June 27th, 2013

Here is my email regarding a shipping…to the same address as above..hmm….Hello Yvonne, Good to read back from you and am sorry for late in reply.I felt comfortable to email you my order this way rather than to fill it on your site,so below are the items I want to order: Item Needed :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Box Shoulder Bag Mix all avialable Color Qty: 12pcs Large Tote Bag Mix all avialable Color Qty: 12pcs Flower Cluster Hat Mix all avialable Color Qty: 48pcs :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Here is my Shipping/Invoice Address below Company Name: Every Giant Dept. Store City House, 6 Karaiskakis Street, CY-3032 Limassol, Cyprus Website: Under Construction Concerning the shipment, the likes of UPS, FEDEX and POST OFFICE always don’t take care of the charges down here. Charges like handling, customs duties, tax etc. I have experienced such situation before and I don’t want to be the victims of such a thing again, Kindly email me with the total cost of my order only and don’t worry about the shipping cost because I’ve personal shipping agent that will come for the pick up in your store, I’ve informed them about this they told me the best way to pick up in your store is for you to email me with your store address and the time package will be ready for pick up with your convenience time and date, please kindly get back to me with this details along with the total of my order. so i can give you my card details. Note : Please will we need your pick up address and the weight of consignment Pick Up Full Address : PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS Weight Of The Consignment : PROVIDE ORDER WEIGHT Momentary Value Of The Consignment : PROVIDE ORDER TOTAL COST I wait for your swift response so I can forward my card for the payment as soon as possible.

Yvonne Bullen on September 25th, 2013

Thanks to everyone.

I was just about to send a reply back, but since this looked quite suspicious I decided to google

The email I received:

***
Hello Bryan,

Good to read back from you and am sorry for late in reply.I felt comfortable to email you my order this way rather than to fill it on your site,so below are the items I want to order:

Item Needed
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Compact First Aid Kit
Qty: 24 pieces

Personal First Aid Kit
Qty: 12 pieces

Home / Vehicle First Aid Kit
Qty: 12 pieces

First Aid Kit
Qty: 12 pieces

Basic First Aid Kit
Qty : 12 pieces
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Here is my Shipping/Invoice Address below
Company Name: Every Giant Dept. Store
City House, 6 Karaiskakis Street,
CY-3032 Limassol,
Cyprus
Website: Under Construction

Concerning the shipment, the likes of UPS, FEDEX and POST OFFICE always don’t take care of the charges down here. Charges like handling, customs duties, tax etc. I have experienced such situation before and I don’t want to be the victims of such a thing again, Kindly email me with the total cost of my order only and don’t worry about the shipping cost because I’ve personal shipping agent that will come for the pick up in your store, I’ve informed them about this they told me the best way to pick up in your store is for you to email me with your store address and the time package will be ready for pick up with your convenience time and date, please kindly get back to me with this details along with the total of my order. so i can give you my card details.

Note : Please will we need your pick up address and the weight of consignment

Pick Up Full Address : PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS
Weight Of The Consignment : PROVIDE ORDER WEIGHT
Momentary Value Of The Consignment : PROVIDE ORDER TOTAL COST

I wait for your swift response so I can forward my card for the payment as soon as possible.

Warmest Regards

Rebecca Williams

Bryan W on September 27th, 2013

I also heard from a guy with a similar pitch. Here is the email I got once I gave him a quote:

Thank you very much for the quote I will like to proceed with the order. At the moment,I will be shipping this order to a friend in Trinidad i really need your favor am therefore recommending you to contact the below shipping company for delivery charges:

Shipping Details: Company name: DROP VICTORY SHIPPING COMPANY,

Contact Email: oceandropshipping11@live.com

dropshipping11@cooltoad.com

Contact Person: Andy Lee

The following is what the Shippers will require to get you a quote: *Delivery Address *Estimated Weight and dimension of units.Or Quantities of the Products *Pick up Address(Location).

SHIPPING DESTINATION

John Nelson 3rd Floor House 2-74 South Quay Port of Spain TRINIDAD & TOBAGO kindly email me back with a total quote including shipping quote as soon as Drop Victory International Shipping, gets back to you with the shipping charges,So I can proceed with the payment of the order with my credit card to you to get started

When I researched these “shipping companies”, I could find no evidence of their existence on the internet. Also, no company email, only addresses anyone can get.

Pretty strange for a “shipping company”. When I called him to say I couldn’t verify their existence and he should arrange the shipping – which he originally was very insistent on doing – not the usual customer’s request!!! – he suddenly became “very busy” and short with me.

I also told him I would not send anything without a bank check clearing my account first. I would advise the same procedure on all large orders to protect yourself. I didn’t hear from this guy again.

They always seem to use common first names with a common last name. When you ask for details, they act as though they are very important and in a hurry. for a large order, don’t send anything until a bank check clears your bank account. This won’t be a problem for a legitimate buyer but will scare off someone who might be trying to scam you.

Suzanne on November 27th, 2013

Got this today…

Hello,

I will like to know if you can get me the following Granite Counter tops:
Finish: polished
Thickness :3cm
Absolute Black Island 34 X 74 with 3/4″ Half Bullnose, No cutout Qty : 2
Absolute Black Island 40 X 80 with 3/4″ Half Bullnose, No cutout Qty : 2
Kindly get me some prices excluding shipping fee and installation fee.Do
you take Credit Card as form of payment ?.

Regards
Mr Nick Brown
NB: Do you build concrete countertops as well

Then when I told him I was confused on the order, as I have NEVER been asked for 4 Islands for one home, he called me from a San Jose, California number, (408)256-7306 Confirmed that what he wanted was correct. Then, sent me this

Thank you very much for the quote I will like to proceed with the order. At the moment,I will be shipping this order to a friend in Trinidad
i really need your favor am therefore recommending you to contact the below shipping company for delivery charges:
Shipping Details:
Company name: DROP VICTORY SHIPPING COMPANY,
Contact Email: oceandropshipping11@live.com
dropshipping11@cooltoad.com

Contact Person: Andy Lee

The following is what the Shippers will require to get you a quote:
*Delivery Address
*Estimated Weight and dimension of units.Or Quantities of the Products
*Pick up Address(Location).

SHIPPING DESTINATION
John Nelson
3rd Floor House
2-74 South Quay
Port of Spain
TRINIDAD & TOBAGO

kindly email me back with a total quote including shipping quote as soon as Drop Victory International Shipping, gets back to you with the shipping charges,So I can proceed with the payment of the order with my credit card to you to get started

I will be looking forward to your reply.

Best Regards
Mr. Nick Brown
Ph: 408 256 7306

Now, I am trying to continue to get his CC info and call the bank… lets see how this plays out. Hehe….

Stephanie on May 29th, 2014

they are scamming you by giving you a false credit card and they make their cash on the “shipping” that you pay with your own money to their own courier

analogous case here
http://www.trafficsteed.com/cote-divoire-scam-asking-for-wholesale-orders-from-fashion-businesses-in-canada-and-united-states/

Jess Canadian on August 26th, 2014

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